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Review: Microsoft Surface Pro 4

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  1. Glennie Keebler says:

    Microsoft customer service is horrible. Only worse experience you could experience is with Intuit. Next to Intuit, Microsoft looks like a champion, but that is only because Intuit is the most poorly run company on the planet by a landslide. Intuit is #1 on my list of most poorly run Fortune 500 companies. Microsoft #2. All airlines occupy my 3-10 spots on my top 10 list.

  2. Randy Kihn says:

    It's extremely short sighted and naïve to tell everybody to avoid it just because you had problems. It really annoys me when people come up with that line. How would you like it if people were saying the same about your business just because there just happened to be a problem with a product or service your business offered? Things do go wrong, that's why we have warranties and consumer rights, otherwise they would not exist because they would not be necessary.
    As for losing all your files, you run a business and don't have backups of your files? If that's the case it's almost criminal to blame somebody else for losing them.

  3. Amira Witting says:

    I ordered the Surface Pro 4 with i7 & 16 gigs of ram. Sending it back after 3 weeks. What a p.o.s. this turd is. Crashes several times a day. No docking station, like they had for the Surface Pro 2. Processor is chasing it's own tail, constantly getting hot, causing the fan to kick in, machine starts hissing. Playing solitaire in airplane mode, battery is dead from full charge in under 2 hours. Only one USB port but I need two. Alt&tab causing me to hit tab twice sometimes but other times only once. Microsoft doesn't deserve my money. I have decided to continue running my business on the Surface Pro 2, which is good enough for that. For video processing, I intend to go buy an Apple machine and start the OS learning curve over completely. Microsoft: you guys are a bunch of idiots.

  4. Mrs. Malinda Stiedemann DDS says:

    In my opinion, Microsoft really needs to focus on:

    – A real battery that lasts a day of working (8~ actual hours of usage).
    – A price point that is affordable (market share > profit, at least in the short/medium term!).
    – Fewer moving parts like fans, hard drives, etc to improve reliability and reduce faults. When people are paying for a premium device, they want to know it will last and remain usable!
    – Focus on improving the OS to a more stable and reliable version so that users have confidence in what the are using.

    Extra power or more gadgets are not going to make me buy a Surface Pro 5, but the above certainly will!

  5. Pascale Berge says:

    Had an SP3 that was pretty good but it got stolen. Waited for SP4 to replace it and had to return it. In addition to all the problems people have mentioned here (especially errors, lock-ups and very poor battery life), I felt that handwriting recognition (my favourite feature) works less well under Windows 10. I especially dislike the smaller input panel that can't be resized. From the volume of complaints online, I don't think these are isolated problems so l'm surprised (and disappointed) to read endless positive reviews online. They seem a bit misleading to me.

  6. Prof. Dayna Greenholt DDS says:

    Not sure how a 1200+ device that it's sole exclusive purpose is portability gets about 3.5-4 hours of real life use on top of numerous other bugs and somehow manages to receives such high review scores. I'm beyond frustrated after spending this much money and getting average 3.5 hours of use out of it.

    This review is disingenuous and downright misleading to people who are potentially looking to buy Surface Pro 4.

    The only thing I'm thankful for is a 3 month return policy at Costco.

  7. Miss Sonya Blanda says:

    Agreed. The price of the keyboard is ridiculous, but it wouldn't be such a point of contention if it was even half the price, and it still wouldn't be cheap at that. Let's not forget the Surface is a very expensive piece of kit to begin with, as good as it may be.

  8. Zackery Sawayn says:

    Unfortunately for us, manufacturers think form > substance.

  9. Cesar Langosh says:

    There is a huge population of people having these issues not just Theresa. She is just stating here experience and warning other of it so they can make their own decision.

  10. Destin Jakubowski says:

    I've had a Surface pro 4, i7, 16GB, 512SSD for a few weeks now and am wondering if I've just wasted over AU$4,000 in buying it. As far as I am concerned it is close to unusable in the real world. The fan never stops running because the unit runs almost too hot to hold comfortably most of the time. I have the latest updates but CPU usage is almost always above 60% and often 90-100%. Because of the constant fan whine I cannot use a number of important apps that use recording because the fan whine masks the recording. These apps include Voice Recorder, Dragon Naturally Speaking, voice into OneNote, Cortana (I have to yell at it to hear!), video/sound recording, Skype conferencing, listening to music or watching video.Forget fancy specs and concerns about type covers – this fails on basic practical usability.

  11. Bonnie Roob says:

    I work with the Geek Squad and We have seen a rash of these being returned lately all with hardware issues. Last 2 weeks alone we had to send out 5 with various hardware issues. This could be our store getting a bad batch but Im in a college town and students like me really enjoy the idea of a Surface, but the just don't survive long in the hands of most careless college students. I was really excited about purchasing the new Surface Pro 4 but have sense been soured by what I have seen happening to them. The Surface Book on the other hand has been fantastic!

  12. Loyce Wunsch says:

    WORST PRODUCT EVER!!!!!! Run far, far away from this product! If you own it – return it!
    I had a Surface Pro 3 for less than a year and it was malfunctioning and the Microsoft store couldn't fix it. Long story short they switched me into a Surface Pro 4 (I had to pay difference which I wasn't happy about because it was a huge inconvenience). I had the Pro 4 for not even two weeks when I started having problems with the screen freezing and going black when I was using the internet – not a bunch of pages, just checking emails. I had two lengthy phone calls in to their tech support. The first one because of the screen freezing and going black – which the tech couldn't resolve and didn't give me any sort of acceptable resolution. The second call was to try to deal with a now laptop not turning on but the keyboard being backlit like it was trying to turn on. It was sort of fixed but within a few days the laptop just wouldn't turn on any more at all. And I mean nothing, totally dead (and yes, the battery was charged). Took it to the Microsoft store and I was not surprised to see the large number of consumers all standing around waiting for tech support because everyone was having problems with their Surface Pro 4's. The guys beside me had even gone from a Pro 4 to a Surface Book and was in getting that replaced with a different Surface Book because it was also malfunctioning.

    The icing on the cake was having to call back to the Microsoft store two days after I dropped the computer off because they couldn't seem to be bothered to call me to be told that they couldn't extract my files from the Pro 4. No doubt in my mind they didn't care and probably didn't really try. There are no words for how completely disgusted I am with the horrible product quality and terrible service – they don't even care that they just lost all my files. Literally everything is gone and I used my laptop daily for business and personal.

  13. Mr. Ibrahim Wuckert says:

    In the last one week, I have used it sparingly and it hung twice. It would not shout down and a loud buzzing sound was coming out of it. I am disappointed. Buying a keyboard which is sold separately is another is another negative factor. The present onscreen keyboard takes away 30% of the viewing area. MS knows that eventually you would have to buy a keyboard, so extra revenue for them

  14. Prof. Alberto Wiza Sr. says:

    I have used it for one week. there are serious issues that need to be looked into. It hung twice, when I cold not even power it off or start it. After investing so much of money, it is a disappointment. Paying extra for a key bird is another negative factor. MS knows that you can not manage without a keyboard, as 30% of the screen is hidden with the existing keyboard, that's why they are selling it seperately

  15. Dewayne DuBuque DVM says:

    how are you finding it?

  16. Miss Florine Morissette says:

    I've got the "hub" for SP4 and as others have commented (see Microsoft's store comments or Amazon comments) it's buggy as heck.

    To wit, on a 2nd monitor at 2560×1080 (miniDP to DP cable) Outlook, Word, and Excel scale, fine. But Powerpoint's ribbon is like 200% bigger not matter what I do.

    Not sure if this is SP4, Windows 10, Office, or hub issue but there it is.

  17. Baylee Johnson says:

    We are buying Surface 3 and Surface Pro 3 as meeting room control devices at work AND we are buying them without Type Covers. No, they should not be included. In fact, don't include the Pens either.

  18. Alexa Schulist says:

    its really hard to believe how many sites are saying the same thing. when i got the surface pro 3 first i used it without a type cover for the first few months and im using it with a bluetooth keyboard at the moment. and ive bought the first surface as well so if they did include the keyboards it would mean id have two type covers gathering dust. some bloggers cant think

  19. Delfina Harris says:

    You do realise this is NOT a phone?

  20. Alberto Kovacek says:

    Do tell, what has actually changed in this review? Your section on battery life still mentions the preproduction unit. I'm sure I've seen an "updated version" of this review previously.
    When you update reviews it would be really good if you could put the updated parts in another colour or italics or something to give us some sort of confidence that you have actually updated it rather than rolled it out again to get more adverts in front of us.
    Does this review have the improvements that the November windows 10 update provided? Being updated in December one might hope so.

  21. Dr. Ben Batz says:

    Absolutely hopeless

    Took delivery in December, nothing but problems. I was upgrading from a SP3, and bought the i7 512 SSD 16GB RAM, basically the top spec at the time. So, very expensive. (Although I agree I have no idea why people are complaining about the separate keyboard price – it is simple arithmetic)

    Lots of nice things, but it is more or less unuseable as the whole sleep / hibernate / wake functionality is random. I can un-dock from my desk, and go to a conference room, and have to hard re-boot with the 30 second power button in front of clients, plus re-start all my services.

    My colleague has the same model, and has also had multiple basic problems – battery draining, video drivers problems causing black screens, etc. etc. etc.

    Really poor, and must be fixable. Many thousand people in Redmond should be hanging their heads in shame at this high-end product having such fundamental flaws.

  22. Coby Jacobs says:

    It will continue while tech journalists exclaim how wonderful these devices are. Regrettably it applies to phones as well. I think a large part of the problem is that many people buying them don't use them fully, so don't come across the limitations. I've a friend with a samsung galaxy S6 who barely uses it as more than a phone. He can't type to save his life, has never browsed the Web on it, has no apps but those I've put on for him, yet was looking for an upgrade when his contract comes round for renewal!!! His laptop is my old one, 6 years old now, and pretty much all he does is read emails and do a bit of browsing.
    If only I could design my own phone and convertible laptop, and get it made.

  23. Ms. Ciara Murazik says:

    Owned for 4 months, still wrought with annoying bugs and things that don't work right, though I'd bet most of it has Windows 10 to blame. Fortunately it restarts really quickly, because I have to do that all the time. Even seemingly simple tasks have required google to help troubleshoot.

  24. Rex Ritchie says:

    sad the SF isn't optimized….nice looking machine.. had one but returned it for a Miix 700, Checked for Bios bloatware(its lenovo, you never know) and all clear.

    Unlike my SF….off the box the miix had no issues (must be lucky) runs cool and smooth, no keyboard glitches, or sleep issues. Battery life is way better, even after the MS firmware update.

    For those who want something now, for multimedia, office work, and light Photoshop…get the miix 7. did i mention its fanless…so no super gaming or 4k editing.

    Maybe the surface 5 will be better optimized, for those willing to wait, i say wait for ms to workout all the kinks on the 4.

  25. Rowan Gerhold says:

    The irony is that your response is exactly what you've accused me of – shortsighted and naive. I would not be surprised if you either work for Microsoft directly or are receiving some benefit(s) from them for posting. And I'm sure you will adamantly suggest it isn't true – as anyone who's on the payroll to give good reviews for a company discreetly would.

    If you read the entire post I mentioned that the store was full of people also returning or having their SP4's "fixed" by the tech support. I was not the only person on the face of the planet having these issues. And judging by the recent comments by others there are plenty of issues with this product. If it was a one off I would have chalked it up to that – oh wait, I did when I originally had a problem with my SP3 and after multiple trips to the MS store I had to have it replaced with a SP4. But when the problems persisted on this brand new device and within two weeks of having a brand new laptop it was having issues it raised the question that maybe there's a larger problem with the product. Something that was confirmed by the 20 other people in the store all having the same issues with their SP4's. And that's just one store out of who knows how many.

    As for the comment about people saying negative things about a business or it's product and services – yes, that comes with the territory of running a business. Any business. The difference between one business and another is whether they accept responsibility for the issues and provide good customer service to rectify the situation or not. In this case it has been an uphill battle dealing with Microsoft. Another difference is that when there are product issues some businesses will choose to pull the product and work hard to try to provide a solution whereas others, as I strongly suspect with Microsoft, will knowingly ignore the issue and continue to sell the product and then pretend they don't know what's going on. They might even try to blame third party vendors, as has also been the case in this situation. As an example, this method is a common practice with automobile manufacturers. They will deny, deny, deny until they are absolutely forced to admit there's a problem.

    Finally, a warranty is only good if a company honours it. I have had nothing but problems trying to deal with this company. That is also explained in my original post. Yes, I still stand by my statement that this is the worst product ever and that people should avoid it. First off, because it has so many issues and because Microsoft's own techs finally admitted the SP4 has more problems than the SP3 did. Secondly, because their customer support – whether it's tech support, customer service, or dealing with store managers is horrible. I can outline every detail of how that experience has played out because I've experienced it firsthand. This is not the result of a one time visit to a store but the culmination of many hours over a multitude of store visits, emails, and phone calls with the company.

    If I can help save someone the headache, hassle and stress I have been going through dealing with a faulty product and terrible customer service then at least it's worth it.

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