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  1. Jeff Craft says:

    So i’ve been reviewing the order of events here since launch and now realise that 1. MPB last launch 2015 no significant update for many years 2. 2016 MBP with prev gen cpu launch and price across all laptops goes up significantly. 3. Anyone who wants a Pro machine or built in ports will prefer the spec of the older 2015 model. 4. Apple get to shift all of the old stock MBP and at a higher inflated price. 5. Anyone buying a 2016 model is faced with a heap of upgrades and a bunch of cables and hubs. 6. Whilst the 2016 model is smaller most people perch their laptop on a stand at home/office and use a separate keyboard / and larger screen – the wifi keyboards will now need a cable or hub to work and the touch bar version wont much use as the laptop sits to far back on the desk to continually be reaching across to.7. So the only reason for buying Apple anymore is the OS which is great but its difficult to digest doing this with old tech or over priced tech. 8. or to say look at me I used have 2 grand in my pocket.

  2. Wangchuk Sadutshang says:

    Great article! It has in depth details about the specifications about the new Macbook Pro, and gives insight on both the positives and negatives. This new touch bar should add a whole new look on the Macbook Pro and should attract more customers hopefully. This information is very helpful and provides full knowledge for anyone that is considering to buy a Macbook Pro and needs some information about it.

  3. tommo4130 says:

    How hard are you sucking Apples dongle shaped cock, Techradar? This is a worthless excuse for a laptop update and you fucking know it. And that price? Jesus…

  4. John Q. American says:

    It’s a re-branded MacBook Air. As Forbes said, it’s a Pro MacBook Air. It isn’t a MacBook Pro. The people who wanted an upgrade to *that* lineage were betrayed.

  5. prometheus says:

    “Massive improvement” in the deletion of USEFUL stuff:
    1. Removal of MagSafe
    2. SD Card support
    3. HDMI port
    4. Soldered RAM and SSD
    5. Unlabeled USB Type C ports

    There’s nothing “Pro” about this upgrade. Apple apparently doesn’t give a shit about its users and will create “change” just for the sake of change. And it’s backwards change at that.

  6. Unknown says:

    Apple can’t sit there and say they’re innovators and limit their laptops to 16gb. That is a joke.

  7. Ryan Karolak says:

    I feel exactly the opposite than the reviewer. The new Macbook Pro laptops are nice and great laptops, but they clearly aren’t targeted at the “Pro” audience.

    There was a time when the Powerbook and Macbook Pro differentiated its self from the iBooks and Macbooks by not only having more power and a nicer build, but put functionality before form. The Pros had expansion card slots, a sizeable variety of different ports, and some limited upgradability, like with the RAM, SSD/HD, and optical drive (or second SATA drive). They also had a decent dedicated GPU (graphics card).

    Instead, these have all been continually traded away for aesthetics and thinness. The strip above the keyboard is neat, but wasn’t really anything people felt was missing. It also removed the function keys, which have been useful for decades.

    The processing power is just marginally better and the convenience and flexibility of the MBP is worse. It makes sense if Apple wants to push minimalism and new features to the Macbook and Macbook Air lines, but the Pro should be more conservative on its major changes and focus on a large array of features and power over aesthetics. I think most professionals and power users would rather have this then having a laptop that’s a bit more slimmer and requires a large connection of dongles and adapters. The Pro should be like the high-end workstation and gaming laptops in the PC world. People who feel it’s excessive or too bulky can get the Macbook or Macbook Air instead.

  8. Mansgame says:

    Fanboy says what?

  9. Jamie Harding says:

    where the benchmarks, this review feels like a apple advert, How fast is the 460″pro” common do your job techradar……

  10. Mansgame says:

    Such a fanboy “article”. Apple is getting hammered left and right for the dongle hell and underpowered/overpriced laptops they introduced. Are you in Apple’s pocket?

  11. Veritas says:

    I’ve had my late 2011 17 MBP for about 5 years now. At the time it was a amazing laptop, and the fact it still works great today despite hours of daily use shows the quality.

    However there’s no way I can justify upgrading to this new MBP, are they kidding, not a single standard USB port despite the fact that nearly ever single piece of hardware still uses it. In fact not a single other port apart from USB-C. They even got rid of mag safe which was amazing.

    Why would I pay such a large amount for a laptop labelled ‘pro’ and then have to buy adaptors and just to get basic bits of hardware to integrate?

    I can’t believe its not even mentioned as a Con in the summary. So much for impartial reviews.

  12. tenonic says:

    This new Macbook Pro is a joke. 32GB should definitely be an option, instead some ridiculous touch strip inconveniently placed on top. Price is way beyond acceptable. As a software dev I care less about the weight but more about usefulness and practicality. I need my USBs, HDMI and ESC key. As well it would be nice to get the touchscreen.

  13. Richard Crossley says:

    https://www.youtube.com/shared

    Although I have been waiting for several years to buy a new MacBook Pro this video perfectly sums up why this can’t be called a Pro device! I ended up selling my Air and buying the MacBook as that isn’t my main portable work computer so can live in USB C land! I’m still sticking with my self upgraded none retina display 2012 13 MacBoook with 16GB 512SSD (that I can change at anytime) and it even has RJ45! I need cables for thunderbolt or monitor and power…that’s it as rest all built in! For this thing I’d be in same boat as this video!

  14. NewClassTraitor says:

    30 yr Mac user here (Plus, then SE/30, then PB 170,…, currently iMac 5K and MBP mid-2012). After seeing this pathetic Twiggytop I started spec’ing Linux laptops. ElementaryOS (a Ubuntu variety skinned to look like Mac OS) even looks a bit familiar.

  15. Jason says:

    Additional pros: Comes in two colors!

    Additional cons: Lack of USB ports, lack of Thunderbolt/DisplayPorts, lack of MagSafe port, lack of HDMI port, lack of SD card slot. Significantly higher cost for iterative improvements to power. 13″ models are still dual core and integrated graphics only. Apple logo on the back of the screen no longer glows.

  16. Brek Brek says:

    Looks good but way too expensive for me. I started with the first iteration unibody mbp in 2009, used it every day for 5 years then sold it for 2/3 what i paid for it, now that was value. Now using a second hand pimped up 2011 mbp and it will have to do for a while now, unless the previous gen retinas drop to silly money.

  17. Fab says:

    This Macbook Plus is great, but what about a new Macbook Pro for professionals ? Something with ports and pro stuffs, where music artists could for instance plug a USB Rode microphone, or photographers directly plug their SD card in the computer…… That would be great….

  18. Ian Tucker says:

    Wouldn’t wish this laptop on anybody, due to the lack of USB ports alone. Gimmicky touch bar instead of physical ESC and Fn keys, ridiculous price just add insult to injury. Shame, I used to like Apple laptops.

  19. BoltmanLives says:

    Apl caught below the Surface.

  20. DrG says:

    I want to put a challenge to Tim Cook: Make a MacBookPro that is thicker, and heavier but has, besides USB-C ports, a regular USB port, an ethernet port, a video monitor out port, a SD reader, AND a super drive in it, upgradeable 32 GB RAM option, upgradeable storage drive and all the other specs, possibly leaving off the function bar, and pit it in sales against the MBP you are about to release. For the $5000 I’ll need to spend, I’d buy the second one with no questions asked.

  21. fortyminstofive says:

    I want a MBP where every single key is a mini OLED screen. It would look über cool when powered off. That would float my boat. Wouldn’t mind one of these new ones, if the price wasn’t extortionate. Needs more ports though, it’s supposed to be aimed at professionals.

    1. John Q. American says:

      Um, I wouldn’t go THAT far. Although I do want to see a REAL MacBook Pro, a REAL iMac upgrade and a REAL MacPro upgrade. But playing with digital recording and Affinity Photo and Designer and Photoshop, I can really see how that touch bar will be very handy. Maybe not as nice as a full touch screen. I think Surface Pro has the right idea there. The iPad and the MacBook Air may need to merge. But pro Software developer, Apple developers and any content creator or person who needs to run a lot of virtualization really needs, and wants some serious computing, design and recording professional level hardware.

    2. Mansgame says:

      What have you achieved, fanboy? Finished that novel that you keep working on while at Starbucks?

    3. Mansgame says:

      And developers have overwhelmingly said they don’t want anything to do with it.

    4. Veritas says:

      Got the last 17″ MBP they did back in 2011. Over its time I’ve put in an SSD, more RAM and its served me well, 5 years of daily use.

      Next upgrade is going to have to be to a Windows system, because Apple seem to have lost contact with the real world when it comes to building a professional system.

      1. The Don says:

        I have owned Mac’s and love them. Right now I am using a mid 2014 rMBP i5 with SSD hard drive. The last time I owned a windows machine was in um 2002? DOS is like a Rubick’s Cube to me but not in a fun way. UNIX-Like OS’s like macOS/OS X and Linux make more sense to me personally. With all of that being said I am looking for a new portable workstation; and as of right now the Dell Precision 15 7000 (7510) series. I’m not sure whats going on with Apple these days but they are gearing their products less and less towards super users and more and more towards children, college kids, and very old people. I am still using my MacBook pro now with macOS only due to the fact they don’t ciphen literally every piece of data and send it to apple like ms does, but now they do. So my last bastion of hope was maybe the 5k 27″ iMac with i7, 16GB ram, and 2TB Fusion / 512GB SSD drive… unfortunately the more and more I look at a PC like that Dell with more overall power under the hood then the iMac and being extremely customizable the decision is looking easier and easier. God I wish I could stay but it’s not worth it anymore. Switching everything over at the office to make the products work etc.. used to be worthwhile now its.. just well… EXPENSIVE. sigh. i never thought i would say that.

      2. John Q. American says:

        Apple better knock the socks off the developer / pro content creator community by next October, or I think a key constituency of Apple will bail. The competition is getting too good. Not good enough for people who have spent a lot in Mac OS X compatible software and know and love the Apple paradigm to bail just yet though, mostly, AFAICT. My Late 2012 iMac is getting long in the tooth. If I don’t have some super excellent desktop system from Apple to upgrade to by next Fall, I may go with the competition, as much as an act of rebellion as pragmatism.

    5. Richard Crossley says:

      Bluetooth uses more power then most wired devices!

      1. Rick says:

        Low power Bluetooth uses less power than running headphones/earphones attached. Yes it may use more than a mouse….but who needs one with a trackpad; also if you’re needing to run a hard-drive on phantom power you’ll drain your battery huge on your laptop. Just thinking if you were using a bluetooth hub for a stick or a card; you will only need to use it briefly. I can only imagine what else you might use that is so low powered that Bluetooth uses more power.
        Rick Chapman

        1. Richard Crossley says:

          In a two second search everything I’ve read says that isn’t the case although Bluetooth is closing the gap but all you have to do is turn on Bluetooth on your phone or MacBook and you can see it uses more power. On top on this there are points where I transfer 150GB of VMs via thunderbolt. Good luck doing that via Bluetooth!

          1. Rick says:

            Richard, you are correct that your device will use more power when running Bluetooth than without. However, pushing powerful magnets in your earphone/headphones requires lots of juice; just because they are small doesn’t mean they don’t draw a lot of current. The other reason for Apple going this way has to do with peoples comfort and the experience they get using their device. Most people want their devices to work and no cables at all if they can help it. Too many times Apple has done this…forgone another cable to simplify the whole experience; the only things to make this simpler now is batteries lasting so long that sleep mode would be any time your headphones/earphones are not on/in your ears.
            Rick Chapman

    6. ptzoutz says:

      I think Apple knows that the majority of laptop users, even most professionals don’t need sd cards, very powerful gpu cards etc. The percentage of creative professionals who use a laptop is small compared to the rest. The rest just wants an ultra portable capable computer. And for the sake of profit Apple seems to have just those in mind when creating the new mac.

    7. Richard Crossley says:

      Have you tried working in this wireless world yet? I got a set of beats free with my iPad Pro. If you want you MacBook/iPad and headphones to not last a working day then go for it! Even at low power Bluetooth uses loads more power then just the headphone jack and without spending over £250 most Bluetooth headphones last max 6 hours and definitely don’t sound as good as my Bowers and Wilkins P3. It is nice for a quick coffee shop work session then just connect to phone mind.

    8. VulpineMac says:

      You’re making assumptions based on no data. I expect we’ll see these changes in new keyboards over the course of the next year. Until then, most people will still be using their older hardware and NOT using external keyboards on their laptops.

    9. Burstup says:

      Dude, the Nokia Communicator was called a smartphone, in 1996 – that’s 11 years before the iPhone. And so was the HTC Wallaby (MDA). Smart phones are not defined by the capacitive touchscreen (which by the way the LG Prada had 6 months before the first iPhone), but by their functionality (email, web browser etc.).

    10. VulpineMac says:

      Absolutely false, Rann. I suggest you look at the market for USB before the iMac came out and how it exploded onto the market with all kinds of peripheral devices AFTER the iMac came out–most of them in colorful housings at first to go with the iMac’s brightly-colored cases compared to the staid, boring, old, Beige Boxes.

    11. VulpineMac says:

      “No body does that as all those key functions moved to GUI. This toolbar is a gimmick.”

      It keeps your fingers off the screen so you can pay attention to what you’re really doing.

      1. Rann Xeroxx says:

        “It keeps your fingers off the screen so you can pay attention to what you’re really doing.”

        You are looking at your screen, not at your keyboard. You would have to take your focus away from the screen and look at the keyboard then look back at the screen. If you had something that required this action over and over again this would be very unproductive.

        If you placed the UI elements at the bottom, its about the same distance as the touch bar but facing your and at focus.

        1. VulpineMac says:

          … And lose screen real estate in the process.

    12. VulpineMac says:

      I suggest you view the keynote where they had a professional DJ using it right on stage.

      1. LeeTronix says:

        You might want to have a look at this article as well https://www.cnet.com/news/appl

      2. LeeTronix says:

        I did and it was awful. That was not DJing in any fashion other than sliding the tone shape of cheap sounds in this case.

        1. VulpineMac says:

          If you say so. Personally, I don’t agree. Besides, there are a lot more capabilities accessible with the bar than just, shall we say, “sliding the tone shape.” It is a far more effective analog to digital tool than anything else currently available with the possible exception of the 15-year-old technology of Microsoft’s “Dial” which has to be physically placed on the screen to use it.

          1. Rann Xeroxx says:

            “It is a far more effective analog to digital tool than anything else
            currently available with the possible exception of the 15-year-old
            technology of Microsoft’s “Dial” which has to be physically placed on
            the screen to use it.”

            I don’t think you fully understand what the dial can do. It will function with any Windows 10 PC without putting it on the screen. But with a Pixel Sense screen, the screen under the dial reacts and displays… whatever you want it to.

            And as MS said, the dial is just the first of many of these type of elements they will be making that performs this interaction. And Pixel Sense is a foundational technology. Frankly I can see the Surface Desk coming in a few years where you set your phone on it and can swipe information, display the screen, etc and control it from the desk. Apple has nothing like this.

    13. VulpineMac says:

      I would suggest trying the MacBook Pro before you pan it; most software still tends to run faster on Macs than Windows boxes unless you’re willing to pay for the really high-end stuff at $8K-$10K.

      I would also argue that if you’re not willing to work CAD, development or art on a MacBook Pro, they why the HECK would you want to on a Surface Book? The argument is illogical.

    14. marcyff2 says:

      you can edit beyond HD resolution on a MBP? If so you sir are amazing!

    15. Speedfriend says:

      iPhone was not the first touchscreen smartphone, that was the LG Prada phone, announced 6 months before the iPhone was.

      1. Rick says:

        I think you better check this one out further. Apple caught every other phone manufacturer by surprise and turned the industry on its head with this release. Otherwise LG would have made those waves not Apple.
        Rick Chapman

        1. Richard Crossley says:

          They are right. I used to work selling phones. I had the LG Prada and then the iPhone 2G. LG was first touch screen. Arguably the Nokia communicator as per the Matrix but certainly the N95 was the first proper smartphone. What iPhone did was use these innovations in a single form factor. I loved my 2G but it was pretty limited at the time. Had to have an app even to send MMS and was only 2G. The genius was basically combining iPod and phone together. A fact that seems lost on the 7 minus the headphone jack!

          1. Rick says:

            Apple has just taken wireless to the next step. Most people using headphones/earphones today are buying Bluetooth anyway. I understand this isn’t the music connoisseurs solution, nor is it the cheap solution, but this is the solution that makes the most sense based on Apple’s market demographic.
            Rick Chapman

          2. The Don says:

            I LOVE my Bose Q 35’s.. and they are Bluetooth noise canceling over ear headphones. I use them with my iPhone 6S+ and rMBP mid 2014. Like I said I am more of a pro user in a previous post so my next purchase is going to be a Dell Precision 15 7000 series 7510… the new MBP’s just don’t have the specs I need. Mac changed their business model .. being great died with Mr. Jobs IMO.

          3. another_user says:

            gotta ask, where do you get these stats that most people are buying bluetooth headphones? I don’t know anyone that buys wireless headphones as they just use the ones that came with there phone, and yes I know my evidence is anecdotal, but so is yours.

          4. Rick says:

            I understand that you think that my thoughts about Bluetooth are anecdotal. But my thoughts come from the fact that many of the people that I know, being military, are buying Bluetooth headphones/earphones because they can use them for multiple functions, including going to the gym, while travelling and for use with their phones. The transition from one to the next makes great sense. For those that have no need for wireless, I can see the cost of wireless tech being inhibiting.
            Rick Chapman

          5. another_user says:

            Your friends happen to buy a lot of bluetooth headphones, and as you stated, being in the military may be the reason… My friends, on the other hand, don’t. The fact is that your thoughts are anecdotal, as are mine. This means that you can’t assert that MOST people are buying bluetooth anyway. You can say that most of your friends do, but that is a statistically insignificant number.

          6. Rick says:

            Most of these people aren’t my friends; I don’t even know them, but they are still spending their money on convenience.
            Rick Chapman

          7. another_user says:

            Sorry, you lost me there. If you don’t know them how do you know what they buy?

          8. Rick says:

            I see them wearing them while doing sports at the military sports plex.
            Rick Chapman

    16. McLaren says:

      I think Eds point was pretty much around the ‘Apple’ sales model… ie. ‘iSheep’ or ‘Fanboys’ will accept any old cr@p we tell them!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/

      So reading between the lines, he has a point! IF the afore mentioned ‘Fanboys’ said ‘no thank you apple!’ then we’d see real ingenuity and innovation.

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